message board jargon:
So haze writes:
Ponder about rage:
"I guess rage is the wrong word... but has anyone else found that sometimes you gradually become more and more jaded? Not at anything in particular but in general... You start to lack trust, and view things as oppressive etc. You are nto Depressed because you are not down per say but things are not having that glimmer or shine that they used to.
You lose contact with some people that you quite enjoyed their company in the past and don't really have much to say to them; you can chalk it up to "growing apart" or what have you but how come? More importantly for all the above ailments what do you do? For those with a snyde comment no this is not an "e come down" this is a logical almost 9am on a thursday morning ponder... any ideas anyone?
- ë"
Random extremely negative guy writes:
"Buck 65 said live:
the older I get,
the more sense life seems to make
and the less I care
I, on the other hand, become more disgusted by the actions of man every day. The more I learn about the Vietnam war, the Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch trials, rape, torture, weapons, whatever, the more I hate the idiots that came up with all of them. Comparing the few redeeming characteristics of humanity, those little joys and experiences we all live for, to the out and out plague we wrath upon the earth, there is something seriously flawed about us. We are a virus with shoes. F*ck humans. I can't wait for us to we die but I hope we leave something of a planet for the insects to inherit. Regardless, if you aren't filled with rage at the notion of humanity, you live in a bubble. Let rage inspire you to action. Don't just stew, let loose and tell the world how pissed you are. Flower power didn't work. So what? Try something else. Make the f*ckers listen! RAGE!!!"
I respond:
"Regardless of the fact that we have to work and pay the bills and life is hard, yadda yadda yadda... I think that the reason why people are becoming more cynical, is because they are losing sight of the things they are passionate about and chasing them.
It's too convienient for people to become complacent, to stop seeking the things that make them really happy. We stop spending time with ourselves, really examining why we do the things we do, or asking ourselves if we are making sure that we are being good to ourselves. It seems that the older we get, the more reasons we find to stop seeking information to help us grow and evolve into a better person. We get stuck in our "jobs", and stuck seeking meaningless possessions, while losing more and more of ourselves every day.
Everybody has different things that they are passionate about, and I imagine most people on this site have a good handle on their passion of music, but we need to make sure we are challenging ourselves and pushing ourselves to a higher level, as well.
I, personally, wasted 3 and a half years at my "career job" until one day I realized I had totally lost sight of what made me happy, and the goals I had for myself. I quit, bought myself a camera ( on credit, with no money to pay for it, and no job lined up ) and promptly enrolled in photography school. It wasn't the most logical sequence of events but it made me SOOOO happy to actually do something for me, and shun all the everyday worries about money and all that crap.
And lastly ( sorry this is so long ) I think that we as people don't connect nearly enough as we should with others around us. We don't mentally stimulate ourselves enough with intelligent conversation. This is an extremely generic statement, I know some people are very involved in heavy debate, but I feel that people seem to be very close-minded about alot of subjects, and it restricts their ability to broaden their horizons. I am wrong about things on a regular basis, and I wold continue to be wrong if I didn't have strong-minded people around me to challenge me on my views, and question my beliefs.
I always feel like I am ranting when I write about stuff like this, but it's just my POV, as I feel I have gotten stuck in ruts several times in my life, and will continue to do so I'm sure.
Bean
Ohh....
"We are a virus with shoes"
"Let rage inspire you with action"
Martin Luther King Jr said it best:
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction.... the chain reactions of evil-hate begetting hate, war producing more wars - must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation
Every voice counts, and the last thing we need is another beacon of negativity."
Random negative guy:
"MLK was also shot and killed on a hotel balcony. His greatest lesson was civil disobediance and that's what needs to happen more often. Get some extreme civil disobediance going, to the max! Flower Power didn't work. Let's give rage a chance! Rage for change!!!
Regardless, we are a virus with shoes. That's not being negative or hateful. We are. Every other animal on this planet learns to live in equilibrium with its surrounding. Humans, however, move to an area and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and then we spread to another (Agent Smith was right). This is the same behavioral pattern of only one other organism here: viruses. And we will continue to be a virus until we shut down the capitalist gang-bang and stop having so gawd-damn many kids. You're all breeding like it's the last f*ck of the century. Adopt!
It's a fine idea that "all you need is love" stuff but all the love in the world won't get G. Dubya out of power. It's time to get more constructive.
Writing me off as a beacon of negativity is to ignore my obvious penchant for hope. I wouldn't call for change if I didn't think we could at least f*ck with some people. The way we live must stop NOW!!! {My views on utopia can be found in other threads}"
I summarize:
"^ I fail to see where I mentioned "all you need is love", and I didnt write you off. As I have never met you, all I know of you is that everything I read from your username is extremely negative, and I have yet to see any "hope" from it.
I ( personally ) would rather be known as somebody with strong moral convictions, who fought for what she believed in, and was shot because of it, than somebody who complained about everything bad in the world and never did anything about it."
And Dan jumps in:
"The attitude of raging against everything seems fine and dandy, but in the end, you are simply defining yourself by what you are against. This position of pessimism, cynicism, and negativity (and that's exactly what it is), is going to drag you towards to inevitabilities, if you aren't there already:
A superiority complex
and
Depression
I've done the rage thing, I've defined myself but what pisses me off and it can be fun, and releasing energy in such a way can be quite a rush, but it's not sustainable. There's no balance. Let's say everyone you meet decides to adopt your mode of thought. We all rise up, smash the things that oppress us, and we win. The revolutuion is a success. Then what, well I'm afraid we'll have spent so much time fighting the things we hate, that we won't know where to go from there. We've all got utopian visions, but that won't help us when it was rage that got us there, instead of love. By standing FOR someting instead of AGAINST something, you start to produce positive change. It's a step by step process, with no specific finsh line. Progressing towards a utopia, but with improvement as the goal, not utopia. That way, we can live life and enjoy it in the meantime. If there was a revolution, would you be able to make the shift afterwards towards enjoying life, or would you be so morphed by your own thoughts, that you wouldn't be able to accept victory. Unable to make the shift into positive living, you'd simply go off looking something new to fight. Be the change you want to see in the world....
I'm all for revolution too, but in the meantime, I'm living the way I want to live and trying to affect everyone around me in a positive way...."
random interjection:
"@Beanie nah, he's not just negative, he tells it like it is.
both points are valid, yours is, take your convictions and stick to them.
his is, wake everyone up so they start doing the same.. or maybe I am wrong?
btw, surprised to see your a she, i had no idea!"
And the point I was attempting to make:
"And I see what you're saying, but the summary of it all is that if you are telling it like it is, "waking people up" but not doing anything yourself to make a difference, you are simply a hypocrite."